Comments on: Eugene right around the corner http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/ Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:33:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Patrick http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-523 Patrick Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:09:35 +0000 http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-523 i'm hoping to not eschew the CMTR series! no idea how fast i'll do them, though. but yeah, i think i'm on for a hard run this weekend and then an easy St Pat's on Sunday morning. i'm glad this week was the end of the 60-90 Wednesdays. it'll be really nice to get that time back. i’m hoping to not eschew the CMTR series! no idea how fast i’ll do them, though. but yeah, i think i’m on for a hard run this weekend and then an easy St Pat’s on Sunday morning. i’m glad this week was the end of the 60-90 Wednesdays. it’ll be really nice to get that time back.

]]> By: Chris Bender http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-522 Chris Bender Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:54:14 +0000 http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-522 Yes, I also think you should skip, or "eschew" (?) the half. I also second Joe's 17 mile work out. You guys doing the Cougar Mountain series to get ready for the 50k? I also think that if you injure your ankle you don't run a meaningless time trial. Yes, I also think you should skip, or “eschew” (?) the half. I also second Joe’s 17 mile work out. You guys doing the Cougar Mountain series to get ready for the 50k? I also think that if you injure your ankle you don’t run a meaningless time trial.

]]> By: Joe http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-521 Joe Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:38:17 +0000 http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-521 edit: maybe going even *faster* in the FINAL 2-3 miles. edit:
maybe going even *faster* in the FINAL 2-3 miles.

]]> By: Joe http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-520 Joe Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:35:54 +0000 http://www.masivp.com/wordpress/2009/03/05/eugene-right-around-the-corner/#comment-520 I propose this: Instead of a 17 mile LHR, allow yourself a 2 mile warmup window at typical 8:00 pace or so, and then slowly climb to 7:00 pace and do the remaining 15 miles at that pace. Maybe even stretch a bit after the 2 mile warmup. I'd also look at the Eugene course (which I hear is flat as a pancake) and try to match that elevation profile in the route you do. Or at least be relatively close. In other words, don't do it on Cougar Mtn. But jumping out the store and doing 17 hard miles might be asking too much and might lead to not good times down the road, leg wise. After this, STRETCH. It will be a hard run, take care of yourself afterwards. Maybe even do the ol' ice bath....if for nothing else than the psychological benefits. The next day, enjoy yourself at the 5k but don't do anything stupid like me at the time trial the other night. Maybe pick it up for certain periods just to stretch the legs out, but I would not recommend racing it since it's such an arbitrary distance. Stretch again. Youg legs might feel tight and tired. In fact they should. As for the half...hmm, I want to recommend eschewing it, even though that's not the company line, and you're right, $60 is a little steep for a race you probably will not be at 100% for and can probably only run as a tempo workout. I think the 23 miler is more important, confidence-wise, than the half. Plus it's free. One final idea is to add one more LHR in there...though not for the whole run. I'm thinking either the last 20 or the 15 after that, do a chunk of it (preferably ending the run with it) at LHR pace. Maybe like 10 miles worth. So if it's the 20 mile day, do 10 at normal pace, then ramp it up in the final 10 to the end, and if you're feeling up for it, maybe going even *faster* in the mile 2-3 miles. Maybe another 12-15 minute ice bath following it just for precaution. To sum up: 1. I fully endorse LHRs...in fact I could use one myself, so I'd be happy to join you. 2. A 17 mile LHR might be a little crazy, especially w/out proper warmup. 2. Doing that and a hard half marathon on back-to-back weekends might not be a hot idea and your legs might hate you and take it out on your at mile 19 of the big day. 4. On top of that, I find the 23 miler more important than the half marathon race anyway. 5. On top of that, it's free. I propose this:

Instead of a 17 mile LHR, allow yourself a 2 mile warmup window at typical 8:00 pace or so, and then slowly climb to 7:00 pace and do the remaining 15 miles at that pace. Maybe even stretch a bit after the 2 mile warmup. I’d also look at the Eugene course (which I hear is flat as a pancake) and try to match that elevation profile in the route you do. Or at least be relatively close. In other words, don’t do it on Cougar Mtn. But jumping out the store and doing 17 hard miles might be asking too much and might lead to not good times down the road, leg wise.

After this, STRETCH. It will be a hard run, take care of yourself afterwards. Maybe even do the ol’ ice bath….if for nothing else than the psychological benefits. The next day, enjoy yourself at the 5k but don’t do anything stupid like me at the time trial the other night. Maybe pick it up for certain periods just to stretch the legs out, but I would not recommend racing it since it’s such an arbitrary distance. Stretch again. Youg legs might feel tight and tired. In fact they should.

As for the half…hmm, I want to recommend eschewing it, even though that’s not the company line, and you’re right, $60 is a little steep for a race you probably will not be at 100% for and can probably only run as a tempo workout. I think the 23 miler is more important, confidence-wise, than the half. Plus it’s free.

One final idea is to add one more LHR in there…though not for the whole run. I’m thinking either the last 20 or the 15 after that, do a chunk of it (preferably ending the run with it) at LHR pace. Maybe like 10 miles worth. So if it’s the 20 mile day, do 10 at normal pace, then ramp it up in the final 10 to the end, and if you’re feeling up for it, maybe going even *faster* in the mile 2-3 miles. Maybe another 12-15 minute ice bath following it just for precaution.

To sum up:
1. I fully endorse LHRs…in fact I could use one myself, so I’d be happy to join you.
2. A 17 mile LHR might be a little crazy, especially w/out proper warmup.
2. Doing that and a hard half marathon on back-to-back weekends might not be a hot idea and your legs might hate you and take it out on your at mile 19 of the big day.
4. On top of that, I find the 23 miler more important than the half marathon race anyway.
5. On top of that, it’s free.

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