Can’t hardly wait!
Smoking ban expected to pass easily
A proposal to ban smoking in public — including some outdoor
areas — could significantly affect the customers and owners of any
restaurant, bar, club, non-tribal casino or bowling alley in the
state.Yet just weeks before voters will decide Initiative 901, the measure
has drawn relatively little public interest and virtually no serious
opposition.
How has it taken so long for this to come around?
Cory said,
August 18, 2007 @ 12:00 am
As someone who quit smoking two months ago, I still think that it is seriously FUCKED for someone who goes to a BAR to be worried about their health. Don’t like smoke, don’t go to a bar. If this were that big of a deal, then the number of non-smoking bars would equal the number of smoking bars.
And here I thought Seattle was a progressive city.
Cory said,
August 18, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Sorry, so upset by this I need to post TWO comments: can someone show me actual hard evidence of second-hand smoke causing cancer?
Cause I can show show you actual hard evidence of bans such as this costing people jobs in other cities.
If that sound a little right wing, than so be it. As far as I’m concerned, its kinda like arguing creationism vs. Darwinism. One deals with fact, the other deals with, well, whatever it deals with.
This doesn’t even consider free will, and, of course, DON’T GO TO A BAR IF YOU DON’T LIKE SMOKE! AND I DON’T EVEN SMOKE ANY MORE! AND I’M DEFENDING THIS!
If that
Patrick said,
August 18, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Jesus, Cory, who gave you the right to decide who is cool enough to be in the “gets to go to bars” club? I don’t care about my health (hello - I just had pop-tarts for breakfast) - I care about the quality of the time I have while I’m out at night in a bar, a bowling alley, or a club. If this were that big of a deal, maybe we’d see bans like this gaining momentum around the country. Oh - we are. There are people who will vote for this measure for the wrong reasons (grandma who thinks second hand smoke kills or who wants to ban smoking entirely) and those who will vote for it because they’re part of the majority of the population who don’t smoke and they want to go to bars but they don’t or don’t go as often because they don’t like going to smoky bars. Count me in the second camp. Maybe when you’re out of your noir phase you’ll think differently about this. Smoking isn’t something we should romanticize or celebrate. It kills, it makes you smell like shit, the industry is corrupt, and the health care costs for smokers dying smokers are socialized into everyone’s health care premiums. Lastly - this isn’t about choice. I’d support legalizing pot but if I couldn’t come home from the local pubs without smelling like I just got off tour with Phish, I’d vote for a ban on pot smoking in public places too.